Oh, And this isn't really pertaining to bikes such as the SV650, FZR, a 2000 600, or others, but specifically 03ish and on ZX6r's, GSXR600's, R6's, and CBR600's.
This may seem a bit redundant, but I have recently had a few experiences that many newbies should know about. I have recently started working at my local honda/suzuki/yamaha motorcycle dealership as a mechanic. I get to test drive many of the bikes that come in for service (to make sure they don't fall apart when the person picks them up), as well as many of the brand new bikes for the same reason. Within my first day there, we sold a brand new gsxr600 to a kid that has ridden dirt bikes for about a year. Of course the salesman had no arguement against the kid getting the 600, because it "wasn't a 1000, so it was a good bike to start on" and he was getting paid to sell it. The bike left at noon. It came back at 1:00. There was blood all over it, the whole right side plastic was gone, and the kid was a mess. there was 42 miles on the bike. We had to make him go to the hospital because he was dripping blood on the floor.
Its easy to forget that the new 600's are NOT FOR BEGINNERS. Period. they are 100 hp, and closer to a race bike than any 17 year old has any right to own. I have goten a chance to ride many of them. I currently ride a suzuki bandit 1200 (obviously not a beginner bike) and I have been riding for about 7 years now. After swallowing my pride, i had to admit that the 600 scared me a bit. My bandit is certainly much faster as a whole, way stronger throughout the rpm range, but the 600's were more than I expected. The power band hits hard around 45 mph on most of them, and to some it may come as a surprise. Back in the 80's, a 500 ninja or interceptor, or maybe even some of the 600 fzr's could be considered beginer bikes. Not anymore. Not by a longshot. Since the first kid wrecked his bike, I have seen the exact same scenario play out twice. I have been working there for 2 months, and 3 bikes have been wrecked with less than 100 miles on them.
Why should anyone care? because of insurance. I pay $1000 per year to insure my bandit because people wreck sportbikes. It gives our sport a bad name, and people think that bikes are "dangerous", when they really don't have to be (except for the cage drivers).
Maybe this whole novel I wrote is worthless. People will always be attracted to fast bikes that push thier skill level too far. But Please, if you are looking to get in the sport for the first time, consider a gs500, or maybe a ninja 500. Heck get a honda rebel or nighthawk 250, all are fantastic bikes for beginners. Even with the smaller bikes you probably won't be able to ride them to their full potential for a year or so, and it might save your life when you start out.
Its all about the $$$ he would make.Grafixx01 said:Hey, I'm 25 and have a R6...Is that bad? I haven't done anything stupid or layed it down yet. I say YET cause I know it's inevitable.
And to think, the guy at the dealer was trying to push me on the R1 or 1000RR
:iagree: they are just commisioned, some salesman just don't care about the riders safety, they just want their paycheck.jeeps84 said:Its all about the $$$ he would make.
SVupON1 said::iagree: they are just commisioned, some salesman just don't care about the riders safety, they just want their paycheck.
I know how all this plays out, I was a sales manager for staples and best buy for years. F that business. I hate retail and will never find myself back in it.Grafixx01 said:That was how the salespeople were told to be when I worked at CompUSA in retail. The sales manager told them to get the highest mark-up items out the door. I didn't, guess that's why I didn't last too long when I switched departments. I would ask the customers what they were going to use the machine for and then go by that with what I would tell them to buy. Sometimes, I stole business and custom built the machines for people to save them extra cash.
One of the salesmen at my store actually got caught by the police for using the same OEM number for MS Windows, or I think that is what he got in trouble for. It could've been the fact that he wouldn't give the customer back-up/restore CDs...Not sure.
SVupON1 said:I know how all this plays out, I was a sales manager for staples and best buy for years. F that business. I hate retail and will never find myself back in it.
Best Buy did it for me.. I stepped down while I was there, or tried, I went to the install bay to install car audio and video which somehow I was stuck doing both. I went to work one day and said F this this is still retail. So I moved on to another company audio visual rental and stageing, then I was promoted to Director of Audio visual services since I had so much management experience. Then I left there to work for the worlds 5th largest engineering company installing integrated audio visual components. Much much better life and money than retail BS could ever bring.Grafixx01 said:I second that! That is like the last place that I want to ever hold a job again, unless it is like high up in the chain at corporate!
It was very easy to do, there is very little supervision back there. I was a supervisor also when I was back there, I have caught a few guys (employees) trying to walk out with things. Granted I took little things like connectors and wires, but nothing like store merchandise.Grafixx01 said:My friend worked/works at Best Buy. He says things "walk" out of the car audio bays all the time, all day...
Told him to get me a 50" plasma HDTV!
:dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe:SVupON1 said:It was very easy to do, there is very little supervision back there. I was a supervisor also when I was back there, I have caught a few guys (employees) trying to walk out with things. Granted I took little things like connectors and wires, but nothing like store merchandise.
:dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: You got caught red handed telling a lie. :lol: :dupe:Grafixx01 said::dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe: :tt: :dupe:
You stole...You're a stealer...I'm reporting you to the proper authorities...
I thought that I said it multiple times on TWF before... NONE of the users here BREAK THE LAW IN ANY FORM OR FASHION (ie: speeding, illegal items or acts, stealing)
Originally Posted by Grafixx01
I did 145 on the bike the other day, that was kinda fun but also a little scary when I came up to the 18wheeler. put them on before I hit the wind blast that he gave off.
SVupON1 said::dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: :dupe: You got caught red handed telling a lie. :lol: :dupe:
:dupe: :lol: it's the fact that you always say it :lol: :dupe:Grafixx01 said:Why does everyone say that all the time. Man I was just kidding around about the whole "never breaking the law deal"...