[sherwood]

Ok,
This guy has a 1800cc Chopper with a 50 shot of nitrous. He claims he lined up at a stoplight with an R1 and spanked it! Leaving it nowhere close to him.
What do you think, I think we've got a liar!

 

[Pigface1]

You have to figure the chopper weighs in the neighborhood of 1,000 lbs. So, take that, plus his MAYBE 250 to the wheel on the juice, carry the 1, and he's full of ****. Or maybe he did spank it, the R1 just didn't know he was racing. :lol:

 

[itgirl25]

Or maybe he did spank it, the R1 just didn't know he was racing. :lol:

:lols: that's too funny, pig!

 

[twisty]

The chopper is full of :bs: the weight to power ratio of the sportbike even considering the choppers NOS boost still favors the R1. A newer 600 might be a better challenge for the chopper.

 

[fatburg]

I don't know about that, I have never ridden a liter bike, but I gotta think the amount of torque on that chopper would be insane. I don't think he would win, but it would be a darn good race I would think. I would enjoy seein it.

 

[Jules]

Probably, but I've seen some wild choppers before. A lot of them wern't as heave as you'd think, with just a frame and engine mostely. Most to the show bikes don't even have rear suspension. Couple that with a well set-up motor and a 50 shot, you might be on to something there.

 

[Gas Man]

Probably, but I've seen some wild choppers before. A lot of them wern't as heave as you'd think, with just a frame and engine mostely. Most to the show bikes don't even have rear suspension. Couple that with a well set-up motor and a 50 shot, you might be on to something there.

I can see what you mean. But I'm in the minority. There are many aspects to consider.

For the chopper its largest advantage is the torque from the huge cc's of its motor.

But the largest dis advantage is its weight... most of them weight between 600-700 lbs.

The other advantage the chopper has is the extended wheel base. Most choppers can go WOT off the line cause the front wheel won't point to the sky doing so.

But the R1, depending on year, will have about 20 hp maybe more. Also depends on the chopper.

And a great difference is going to be the gear ratios. Your sportbikes gearing is a bit taller. Combine that with higher revs and the liter bikes will push 100mph in first gear. The sportbikes have close to 1:1 in forth where as the choppers usually don't have that till 6th. Which is better? Not sure... but it is going to play a role.

Somebody can take these ideas and come up with a resonable theory. But at the end of the day, I'd like to see a vid of it!

 

[jeeps84]

The chopper is full of :bs: the weight to power ratio of the sportbike even considering the choppers NOS boost still favors the R1. A newer 600 might be a better challenge for the chopper.

:withstupi If it was a R6, this might be debatable. From my experience with the big twins. You would have to have a 140 cub (2300 cc) on the bottle to compete with the liter bikes and that would only be for a short distance.

 

[jeeps84]

at the end of the day, I'd like to see a vid of it!

:iagree: :withstupi

 

[Gas Man]

Oh yeah, for sure... the only place it is debateable is off the line for "x" distance. The sportbike will have it once they get up n going at any desent speed...

But its all down to what the bikes are built for...

 

[jeeps84]

its all down to what the bikes are built for...

:iagree:

 

[Pigface1]

I don't know about that, I have never ridden a liter bike, but I gotta think the amount of torque on that chopper would be insane. I don't think he would win, but it would be a darn good race I would think. I would enjoy seein it.

There are some extremely fast choppers out there, but they require tons of work. Hell, there are VRODS running 8s at the track (granted, that's a sport cruiser, not a "chopper"). That doesn't change the fact that they're 13 second bikes in stock trim.

Most of the guys riding cruisers and choppers brag about putting 125lbs to the wheel. Obviously that's crap to us, especially considering their bikes weigh 2-3 times more.

I like choppers, but just like anything else, some of the owners are tools. Let the bikes be what they are and stop acting like they're something they're not.

 

[DLIT]

There are some extremely fast choppers out there, but they require tons of work. Hell, there are VRODS running 8s at the track (granted, that's a sport cruiser, not a "chopper"). That doesn't change the fact that they're 13 second bikes in stock trim.

Most of the guys riding cruisers and choppers brag about putting 125lbs to the wheel. Obviously that's crap to us, especially considering their bikes weigh 2-3 times more.

I like choppers, but just like anything else, some of the owners are tools. Let the bikes be what they are and stop acting like they're something they're not.

Very well stated. Chopper's top out around 125, so the torque would be nice off the line but the RPM's will get 'em in the end. Throw a torque monster GSXR 1000 at 'em and see what happens. R1's have balls the higher the RPM's but as far a torque is concerned, the Gix takes the cake.

 

[Gas Man]

I like choppers, but just like anything else, some of the owners are tools. Let the bikes be what they are and stop acting like they're something they're not.

That's the best POV. I say that alot of them are off the line fast, especially for cruiser style bikes. But that isn't their intent.

And yeah 125 and they're DONE! if that...