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Ive been overcoming intuition and purposely inducing counter steer. Turning left and pulling on the right grip took some talking myself into, but now i am getting better at controlling it. Started with a few little tugs in sweepers and low speed swerving. The bike just wants to "fall" in a good way. feels like momentum vs gyroscopic force vs traction :). Im starting to understand what makes those racers so fast. I did notice once i recognised it, i did it more than i thought. I can feel leaned over that i do pull on the opposite bar alot. Perhaps another good reason to hang off the bike. But i find it most useful at turn in. Brake later and turn in faster. This is a skill i deffinately want to improve, ive gotten faster already. Anyone mastered countersteering? Tips and tricks are welcome.
 

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Luckily, I don't think very often about countersteering, I just do it. One place where I have problems is a very steep, very tight 180 degree curve, especially when I'm going uphill. Have to brake, downshift, countersteer, change to turning the handlebar into the turn, lean, fight gravity, and accelerate without falling over, or sliding on the gravel that all the cars throw on the road from cutting the corner.
 

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Luckily, I don't think very often about countersteering, I just do it. One place where I have problems is a very steep, very tight 180 degree curve, especially when I'm going uphill. Have to brake, downshift, countersteer, change to turning the handlebar into the turn, lean, fight gravity, and accelerate without falling over, or sliding on the gravel that all the cars throw on the road from cutting the corner.
I have one of these near me, I have been out hitting up that turn alot lately just to practice at it, I still have not mastered it yet, I have gotten alot better, but I know theres still gotta be a better way to take this curve. I am a little better going down this steep 180 degree turn than up, the recommended speed is 10 mph in a car.
 

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Aside of the turns you make at slow speeds such as u- turns and turning from a dead stop, you are always counter steering it is just happing and your not aware of it, it just is. Most get the impression that you lean into turns when in fact it is a counter steer that is indeed happening. The real testiment comes when you need to turn quikly as to avoid something, most who believe steering is just a lean of the bike and find themselves NOT avoiding the structure they ment to swerve around. Understanding how a bike turns is a life saver. In fact it is kinda scary when you think about how mant bikers there are who still are not aware of how to steer a bike out of trouble. It should be learned by all. A lot of bike crashes come from those who have an abstruction come from the right and the TURN the wheel left only to drive right into it on the right. I have told sever guys I know who ride about "when your riding down the road you cant turn your bars in the direction you need to go it just wont happen" and they look at me with that dear in the headlight look and choose to chalenge the idea. As far as your going to work on this, Great, it should not go without practice. Knowing in a split second which way to push on the bar subconsiously (sp) will save your life. Sorry so long of a post.
 

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You will find that you more than likely do more pushing with the bar side that you are turning into than you do pullling the opposite side!
 

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Today was very smooth. It wasnt a forethought, but an action. I do say it makes a big diffrence in my riding and mabye pushing for more countersteering was the wall i needed to break through skill wise. Id like to say my riding skills have come unwittingly, but this did take a little effort. Thats what i like about riding. Thanks guys. :dthumb:
 
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