I wanted to get a bike for a year now, now im starting to kinda moving foward, im taking permit test this week, and when do i take those courses, after i get my bike? im looking at 2005 R6 from dealer, i never drove one before but i really want an r6, i was lookin at R6s for past 3 month but used ones not that cheap here in Seattle, if u would say its too fast for me, well my friend never drove b4 either and went bought new gsr600 and drove it home for the first time ever...and one more Q, how do I protect it from being stolen in apartments? post some links with security stuff. thank you
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get a used bike.. itll get droped or layed down in the first year.. even if its just tipped over in the garage.. youll be less mad to make a cheaper repair on a less expensie biek then have a 05 R6 with broken plastics.
And for security, get a cover, lock the cover on, then lock the bike to somehtign at the apatrmtnet thats not movable... then if u want more, do disc locks, lever locks or a alarm system, or a combo of em if your that worried. You can get a tilt snesor on a bike alarm to set it off if the bikes knocked down or even set upright.
But first and formost go take a MSF class..... u cna do written test first.. but dont ride till u get that class done.. its a weekend class and gives ya aobut 10 hours seat itme on a lgihter bike u dont have ot woryr aobut hurting.
It'll give ya skills and teach u to learn on your own.. that class will save your life.. EVERY rider here thats decent will tell ya u shouldnt ride till u take it
And for security, get a cover, lock the cover on, then lock the bike to somehtign at the apatrmtnet thats not movable... then if u want more, do disc locks, lever locks or a alarm system, or a combo of em if your that worried. You can get a tilt snesor on a bike alarm to set it off if the bikes knocked down or even set upright.
But first and formost go take a MSF class..... u cna do written test first.. but dont ride till u get that class done.. its a weekend class and gives ya aobut 10 hours seat itme on a lgihter bike u dont have ot woryr aobut hurting.
It'll give ya skills and teach u to learn on your own.. that class will save your life.. EVERY rider here thats decent will tell ya u shouldnt ride till u take it
FRAME SLIDERS. and personally i would get the 05 zx636r just because it is fully loaded this yeah. but to each his own. the most expensive scorpio alarm and chain it to the cement inside of a garage. if they want it they will get it as they always say. personally i would get a fist floor apt. and pull it in the apt. if not make sure u get insured.
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msf course, no matter what ! u'll b glad you did !! www.msf-usa.org
an r6 is a great bike, there's no doubt, just be careful on it. its a beast with alot of power for a beginner that you just never realized is there until you grab a handful of throttle and realize you are or could have been on ur arse in a heartbeat. u might consider a pre owened r6...insurance is less, and the depreciation factor is significantly less.
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an r6 is a great bike, there's no doubt, just be careful on it. its a beast with alot of power for a beginner that you just never realized is there until you grab a handful of throttle and realize you are or could have been on ur arse in a heartbeat. u might consider a pre owened r6...insurance is less, and the depreciation factor is significantly less.
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Someone who has never ridden before has NO buisness on a new R6, period. Buy a used 500, or at most a early to mid 90's 600...didn't we JUST have this same conversation with bulldogdefensive? We need a standing noob sticky about what kind of bike to buy if there isn't already one...
AS far as apt security, like ScottSellers said, as much as you can do, def a cover, a disk lock is great too, if you have something to chain it to, even better...after that, if somebody wants your bike, they are going to take it, a bike that is out in the open can be tossed in the back of a pickup by a couple guys in a minute and be gone, so above all, if you are that worried, get it insured...
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AS far as apt security, like ScottSellers said, as much as you can do, def a cover, a disk lock is great too, if you have something to chain it to, even better...after that, if somebody wants your bike, they are going to take it, a bike that is out in the open can be tossed in the back of a pickup by a couple guys in a minute and be gone, so above all, if you are that worried, get it insured...
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I do not have anything to add to this since everyone has already said it and its been said many times over here on TWF. Do a search for protection or security and yoo will find threads all about this topic.
Welcome to TWF as well and ride smart. :thumbs:
Welcome to TWF as well and ride smart. :thumbs:
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Hey Triton, I completely understand your lust for an R6. I have always wanted one, too. However, I am too short and had to find something that suited my features. Didn't make me happy, but I wound up with something I love.
My point would be to really consider what you want for a first bike. The R6 is gorgeous, and you'd probably look really good on one, however, I have to agree with those who have said it probably isn't the best choice for a first bike. Yea, you'll drop it, but bodywork can be fixed. I think the most important aspect to consider, and please listen to those of us who have been riding for a while, is that as a beginner, when you get nervous and panic, the first thing you will do is grab a handful of throttle. I can tell you right now, you DON'T want to do that on an R6.
Every beginner thinks that riding is so cool and fun, and tend to ignore the other sides of it. It really takes a while before you are comfortable with your bike and understand the physics of it. And during that time, you WILL make mistakes, there's no two ways around it.
If you came into our shop wanting to buy a bike like that, I would seriously steer you away from it. You will have plenty of time later in your riding career to own that gorgeous R6. In the meantime, seriously think about something a little older and less powerful. You will thank yourself later, and your R6 will be much more enjoyable when you finally work your way up to it. Just my :2cents:
My point would be to really consider what you want for a first bike. The R6 is gorgeous, and you'd probably look really good on one, however, I have to agree with those who have said it probably isn't the best choice for a first bike. Yea, you'll drop it, but bodywork can be fixed. I think the most important aspect to consider, and please listen to those of us who have been riding for a while, is that as a beginner, when you get nervous and panic, the first thing you will do is grab a handful of throttle. I can tell you right now, you DON'T want to do that on an R6.
Every beginner thinks that riding is so cool and fun, and tend to ignore the other sides of it. It really takes a while before you are comfortable with your bike and understand the physics of it. And during that time, you WILL make mistakes, there's no two ways around it.
If you came into our shop wanting to buy a bike like that, I would seriously steer you away from it. You will have plenty of time later in your riding career to own that gorgeous R6. In the meantime, seriously think about something a little older and less powerful. You will thank yourself later, and your R6 will be much more enjoyable when you finally work your way up to it. Just my :2cents:
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I agree with everyone who says an R6 is too much bike for your first bike. They have a LOT of power for a 600 and will easily pull a power wheelie if you grab too much throttle. Yeah, I know you think you can control it because your friend bought a brand new gsxr600. So if he can do it, then obviously you can too, right? How long has he been riding that gsxr 600? How long have YOU been riding a bike? How old are you? Trust me, the R6 is too much bike for a person that's never ridden a motorcycle in his life, regardless of age. You have plenty of time in your life to move up, so take your time and start slow. You can easily get a used 500 or OLDER 600 really cheap, and then still sell it later and not really lose much money. And to be honest, I wouldn't think of it as "losing" money because you GAINED something from the experience. Besides, you'll lose a LOT more on a brand new bike just in depreciation alone. Of course, you might say, "well, what if I wreck that used bike and insurance won't cover it and I'm out the whole amount?" To that I say, "well what if you wreck that brand new R6 in the first few months?" I can promise that you won't have paid enough on it to cover depreciation if you dump it that early.
How long has he been riding that gsxr 600? How long have YOU been riding a bike? How old are you? Trust me, the R6 is too much bike for a person that's never ridden a motorcycle in his life, regardless of age. You have plenty of time in your life to move up, so take your time and start slow. You can easily get a used 500 or OLDER 600 really cheap, and then still sell it later and not really lose much money. And to be honest, I wouldn't think of it as "losing" money because you GAINED something from the experience. Besides, you'll lose a LOT more on a brand new bike just in depreciation alone. Of course, you might say, "well, what if I wreck that used bike and insurance won't cover it and I'm out the whole amount?" To that I say, "well what if you wreck that brand new R6 in the first few months?" I can promise that you won't have paid enough on it to cover depreciation if you dump it that early.I think as you can see and read, many of us here were in your situation back when. Most of us are giving you advice from personal experience and sorrow. You will drop that first bike, not long after you get it. It will happen. And you will probably not be lucky enough to tell some awsome story how you made some Matt Mladin moves before you went down. It will more than likely be a slow speed incident where you will hit a patch of gravel or slick spot and will be down before you can say "AW SH!T" or you will miss judge a turn onto your street or into your drive. I even dropped a bike once in my driveway. The point is, get a good solid used bike you can learn on. Go take at least 1 rider course to learn the basics. Then work your way up to the bike you want. I bought a 600 F4i to learn on before I jump to a liter bike, and I have had a MC license for 30 years. I knew a sportbike was an entirely different machine from my cruisers, so I am going to learn how to ride it before I step up to the big bikes, because I want to keep all my fingers, toes, arms and legs attached.
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, as I haven't tipped yet. I say yet, because I know it is only a matter of time before it occurs. I'm not naive enough to think otherwise. That being said, I am still glad I decided to learn on an used bike. For one, I was less nervous about dropping it, so that made my learning experience less stressful. It was also a huge money saver buying used (bike itself and insurance). The money I saved allowed me to get some decent riding gear, which is a must. Now that I'm looking to upgrade I already have the gear so that won't figure into my next bike purchase. I know how powerful the draw is to a new bike, but I agree with everyone else. If you still insist on new, make sure it's a toned down bike, because there is no need to start off with so much power.
OOOPS dont flame me but my first streetbike was a zx636r. although i will not recomend it or any other race bike to somone who has never rode anything on two wheels b4. i have been on 2 wheels since i was a young one. and i dont know what ppls opinions are on dirt bike experience helping out with the street but as far as riding i have been fine. it is just the other drivers i have to look out for now.
forgot to add. and yes you will drop it or wreck it no matter how you look at it. i thought it would not happen to me and what do ya know i was driving home at about 35mph and i seen the lady waiting to pull out but guess what, she sure as **** didnt see me, right as i was driving by she just pulled out and there wasd enough time to do a massive stoppie that pretty much saved my forks and frame and whell but killed most of the plastic. as i stated earlier even if you see the other ppl and they dont look like there gonna do something stupid there is a good chance that they might. but its all fixed and i got some good stuff out of the whole thing so :cheers:
forgot to add. and yes you will drop it or wreck it no matter how you look at it. i thought it would not happen to me and what do ya know i was driving home at about 35mph and i seen the lady waiting to pull out but guess what, she sure as **** didnt see me, right as i was driving by she just pulled out and there wasd enough time to do a massive stoppie that pretty much saved my forks and frame and whell but killed most of the plastic. as i stated earlier even if you see the other ppl and they dont look like there gonna do something stupid there is a good chance that they might. but its all fixed and i got some good stuff out of the whole thing so :cheers:
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it all comes down to responsible riding...if you think you're man enough to ride an r6, as your first bike, then more power to you...but too many times, new riders on bikes like this tend to become statistics in many ways, as well raise insurance our insurance rates beyond belief..which is why we all preach starting out on smaller bikes... there's no rush, you can ride motorcycles forever, so do it right and do it safe..u'll be glad u did.
But bear in mind, as we have all mentioned, its just a beast ride that new riders generally are not prepared for. I mean, lets face it, when you get on the throttle of Ninja 500, its alot easier to control and keep the front wheel in contact with the road, then with an r6, which is built for pure, adreline pumping, ball$ to the wall speed in the 600 class.
Remember, its not if you will down, its WHEN you will down. It's just part of riding that we all have felt at some point, in some way, and most of us, more times than we care to admit.
But bear in mind, as we have all mentioned, its just a beast ride that new riders generally are not prepared for. I mean, lets face it, when you get on the throttle of Ninja 500, its alot easier to control and keep the front wheel in contact with the road, then with an r6, which is built for pure, adreline pumping, ball$ to the wall speed in the 600 class.
Remember, its not if you will down, its WHEN you will down. It's just part of riding that we all have felt at some point, in some way, and most of us, more times than we care to admit.
do they provide u with a bike on the courses?
I like the R6 and i dont want to ride anything elze cuz most of them look ugly, my friends started with gsrRs, CBRs, R6s, and they never rode and old bike, the reason i want to get new one is becouse i cant find used one for right price ( if u find me one, i'll be very happy) and now i can only afford monthly payments about 500-700$ a month, and i dont want to wait. And ppl been tellin me that r6 is good choice, just be very carefull, even if i will wreck it, i have friends who own body shops.
P.S. I'm 19, 6"2,
I bet half of the bikers didnt start with old light bikes, and i understand everything what u guys said, but i like R6 and only it! FInd me used R6 and i'll be glad!
I like the R6 and i dont want to ride anything elze cuz most of them look ugly, my friends started with gsrRs, CBRs, R6s, and they never rode and old bike, the reason i want to get new one is becouse i cant find used one for right price ( if u find me one, i'll be very happy) and now i can only afford monthly payments about 500-700$ a month, and i dont want to wait. And ppl been tellin me that r6 is good choice, just be very carefull, even if i will wreck it, i have friends who own body shops.
P.S. I'm 19, 6"2,
I bet half of the bikers didnt start with old light bikes, and i understand everything what u guys said, but i like R6 and only it! FInd me used R6 and i'll be glad!
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First off, the R6 is a good bike....
I understand what Desmo is saying....that it's alot of speed. But let's state some facts.
The % leans towards you going down within the first season. So he's saying don't waste the money on a new one.
$500-$700 a month???? Your payment on a new liter bike would only be a few hundred if financed for 5 years...remember, we're only talkin 11K or so for a liter bike. So a used 600cc bike would be REAL cheap!!!! The interest rates usually suck on all bikes, regardless to new or used, reason being that, they are recreational vechicles.
Did we start on smaller/slower/or used bikes??? Some of us like N4S are still on slow bikes, :lol: , and alot of us did. I started on a used Kawasaki Ninja EX500. Got it cheap, rode it for 3 years and then sold it for my '02 Ninja ZX-9R!
REMEMBER, IT'S NOT WILL YOU GO DOWN BUT WHEN!!!!
I understand what Desmo is saying....that it's alot of speed. But let's state some facts.
The % leans towards you going down within the first season. So he's saying don't waste the money on a new one.
$500-$700 a month???? Your payment on a new liter bike would only be a few hundred if financed for 5 years...remember, we're only talkin 11K or so for a liter bike. So a used 600cc bike would be REAL cheap!!!! The interest rates usually suck on all bikes, regardless to new or used, reason being that, they are recreational vechicles.
Did we start on smaller/slower/or used bikes??? Some of us like N4S are still on slow bikes, :lol: , and alot of us did. I started on a used Kawasaki Ninja EX500. Got it cheap, rode it for 3 years and then sold it for my '02 Ninja ZX-9R!
REMEMBER, IT'S NOT WILL YOU GO DOWN BUT WHEN!!!!
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WOW! :here: You should get one of thesetriton said:
I wish i had that kind of money for bike :nonod:
I want to pay that much becouse I dont want any intrest on it and want to pay off as soon as possible, used bike cheap? 2002-2004, average 5-7500 miles on it, cost 6-7 K, new r6 = 8,500 +TX, no big diff, plus u'll be the first owner and will know that this bike wont fell off a part on the street...
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