I have tons of experence with frame sliders. I ONLY use Intuitive fram sliders. They are that best and that is NOT an opinion...It's that facts jack. I tell you how many times I have wrecked on those sliders and evertime they keep my bike from flippiing and and smashing the RAD. They are awsome and if you buy anything else I feel sorry for you. Ask Gas he bought lockhearts crap and the bent and cracked the plastic.fatburg said: