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Count me as one. I was registered, then had to go out of town and cancelled. That's not to say I couldn't learn a whole lot from the course.
 

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the advanced course is pretty nice, im gonna take that again, probably next summer..its free here in PA, and it certainly cant hurt.

the beginner course is a must, IMO, they teach you the basics and give you enough knowledge to get started out safely.

Ive taken both, but been quite a long time since I took the last one.
 

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While I can share some of Twisty's views on this...I still think it should be mandatory to get a MC endorsement. Too many squids getting on bikes with no knowledge on how to respect it and making my insurance rates increase!!!
 

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I also think an MSF or similar course should be mandatory as well. While they obviously cant teach you everything, the foundation of knowledge and skill is absolutely essential to starting off on the right foot into riding.

Plus the insurance break is nice too.. :cool:
 

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Insurance break nothing!! I have completed a advance course, and a nationally known safety and defensive driving course thru work and they didn't even give me a thank you, let along a insurance break... :wtf:
 

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I took the course. Didn't do to much for me but I took it. Will be doing them both in the spring with the women so she is not alone doing it. :)
 

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I took a course before I got my license 30+ years ago... it wasn't MSF...I think it was by the Green Cross people. It taught me the most important thing I have ever learned and still practice today. Figure 8's and circles in the parking lot will make you a better rider and save your life
 

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Gas Man said:
While I can share some of Twisty's views on this...I still think it should be mandatory to get a MC endorsement. Too many squids getting on bikes with no knowledge on how to respect it and making my insurance rates increase!!!

You do not need this class to get you endorsement....
 

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I know you don't but you should have to...there is too many squids on the road!!
 

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What is going around in circles go to help you with. Tons of people that have taken the class still can't ride...I dont want call people out but Trish is really scary...She is great girl but she makes nervous and I dont get nervous. I can keep going with people that shouldnt be on the road but until the class is updated there will always be squids.
 

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She took that??? Could have fooled me!!!
 

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When I started riding about 20 years ago it wasn't readily available in my area. I always recommend people take the class before riding. It teaches a lot about how to control a skid, countersteering, etc. A lot of things that some of us take for granted.
 

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Well, I took the class out in Utah, but to be honest, it doesn't do much to help a person ride well. The class will give you the basics on riding and is a good start for beginners that don't know a thing about riding a motorcycle. However, they need to be more strict with the testing procedure and more detailed in the classroom portion. I think the best things to promote better riding are experience and practice. Above all, people need to take their time, start out on a bike that is not too big, and practice the basics instead of just "jumping in" and riding.
 

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Taking the course obviously doesn't automatically make you a solid rider by any means...however, I'd much rather ride with a new rider that took it, than one that didn't.
 

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Above all, people need to take their time, start out on a bike that is not too big, and practice the basics instead of just "jumping in" and riding.
You mean jumping in and wrecking... So many dick licks are getting to ride cycles and dont take it serious. It is very dangerous hobby, sport, and needs to be taking seriously. :bash:
 

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Exactly what you both said is right on! Just sit back and think about how many guys we've heard of that go out...buy a liter sized bike, w/o ever riding a street bike b4, and wadding it up with in the first 3-6 months! It happens all the F'in time! That's another reason why our insurance is so high.
 

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One of my employees just had to have a sportbike after he saw the Bee, that he ran out and borrowed money to buy a Yammr r-6. I had tried to tell him it was too much bike for a beginner but he had decided that if an old fat man could ride one, so could he. He had it about 3 weeks when he lost it out in the forest riding with a group he couldn't handle. They brought it in, in three pieces. Now he has no bike, dumba$$ had no insurance and owes 155 a month for the next 57 months for something he can't ride or fix. Now it's my fault and he wants me to help him get out from under. I make sure he sees me on the Bee every time I take it to work.
 
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