lmao, i mean on the bike in my avater, yea i had it up on a stand, no rub at all with the stock pads, nor with the new ones, i think they are ebc pads. i never noticed it either until i accidently touched it one day, f'n hot! they dont smell or fade, and i dont use em hard, but i use em, ya kno? my stock brakes never got this hot, thats all