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The videotape depicts the suicide of suspect in custody of the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department. The suspect, Ricardo Alfonso Cerna, Age 47, had just shot San Bernardino Sheriff's Deputy Parham during a traffic stop. Cerna was arrested by San Bernardino Police Officers, who turned him over to the Sheriff. Everyone assumed that the other either had or Would search him.

What is amazing is that even with the video, local "immigrant rights" advocacy groups continue to call it a murder and openly tell their
"constituents" that Cerna was murdered by San Bernardino Sheriff's
deputies.

The weapon used by Cerna is the same weapon that he used to shoot Deputy Parham.

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FAKE!!!

There was no splatter that came out the other side of his head or anything

FAKE!!!
 

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That's the real McCoy...you can shoot yourself in the head w/o the bullet coming out the other side.
 

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Ok, where in the hell would that vid come from? Why would it be distributed for all to see? Need a little more background before I believe something like that is real.
 

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depends on the gun it might not have the power to go through looks real to me

how would anyone do that
 

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It's not fake, from what I read about it a couple weeks ago, the major question that came up was how the hell did he get a weapon into an interrogation room, the story goes that he was stripped of it at the arrest, but then it was given back to him by a sheriff that told him it might be better for him to just end it, I tend to maybe believe that it's not too far off, because that was almost NO reaction from the sheriff that came in and saw him, almost like he was expecting it...
 

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Ok, where in the hell would that vid come from? Why would it be distributed for all to see? Need a little more background before I believe something like that is real.

Ask youeself where all the vids came from with the beheadings. They were real. Very real and all over the internet.

Its a very real video.
 

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Ugh!!! what can drive you to do this..and to do it so calmly!! :nonod:
 

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Ugh!!! what can drive you to do this..and to do it so calmly!! :nonod:

And he had to take one last drink of water before he did it. I can see how he didn't want to be thirsty.
 

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And he had to take one last drink of water before he did it. I can see how he didn't want to be thirsty.
He could have atleast asked for a steak dinner or a bottle of wine while he was being detained.....who wants their last meal/drink to be just WATER ????? :willy:
 

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You Guys Are Sick
 

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The one thing that has always gotten me is he is not in handcuffs... I never see anybody that was arrested and not in handcuffs... I maybe :skep: able to see getting the gun past a rookie cop but, not being in handcuffs... Come On... I think it's staged now... :tt:
 

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I was thinking the same thing. Don't you think he WOULD have been in cuffs or that that may have patted him down? It could have been a staged video or it could be a very real video. But I may have to think this one is real guys. And it's all on tape. Someone's A$$ is definitely gonna be a sling for that one.
 

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Ok, where in the hell would that vid come from? Why would it be distributed for all to see? Need a little more background before I believe something like that is real.
This guy was never searched prior to being brought into custody.

The reason he is not cuffed is because, he has already been booked into the jail, and is in an interview room.

He should have been searched on the street and when he was booked in.

However sometimes LEO's get complacent and that vid is the result.

Almost ALL areas of a jail are vid taped.

I have seen guys in custody with knives, razor blades, drugs, etc... and they have been thru several searches....

ya just never know, that's why they should always be searched again and again.
 

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I thought the same thing when I saw it - why no brains or splatter? Looks fake. I have no idea. I got it on email and passed it on. At least it provided some entertainment and lively discussion for y'all..
 

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It is very possible for a bullet not to travel through your head or body depending on the caliber of the gun and the shot being used. For example, police carry hollow point bullets for this reason. Hollow points mushroom out upon impact so it won't travel through and hit an innocent person.

Its very well possible the gun was not found on him during a search because some officers get into a routine with their job from doing it everyday that unfortunely makes them sloppy. I've seen knives missed, razor blades in the waist area of pants, and other small things missed before. A person that is detained and awaiting interrogation usually would not be in handcuffs because they have been through processing and should of been searched all the down to the soles of their shoes. Even the shoe laces are taken out to prevent a person from hanging theirselves or choking someone else. All jewelry should be taken also, the only thing a person should have is their clothing and shoes with no laces. On the street when arrested, the officers should of searched his person, removed any weapons, jewelry, and anything else in his pockets or where ever else. Then in booking he should of been searched again. Technically, everytime the prisoner changes hands from the arresting officer to transporting offier to booking, etc., the prisoner should be searched in case something was missed. If believed to have something somewhere else, a cavity search would be performed by a doctor. And now your probably wondering why I know this stuff in detail...I USED to be 5.0 and these procedures are used where I live. They may vary a little from state to state, but this situation is very well possible. I'm not saying its real or not, I haven't heard of this story, so I don't know any details on it.

Another thing, why would the officer react differently in this situation? He doesn't know the guy, the guy killed an officer, and the guy would just await trial and go through appeals for the next 20 years before any serious punishment would be handed down. The man just did to himself what the other officers would of liked to have done to him for what he did. I might sound harsh, but he took the easy way out and he deserved a bullet to the head.

So with my :2cents: put in, I'm prepared for the :smash: to begin on my views.
 
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