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Yeah that is the day you say I am glad I have full coverage or DAMN what was I thinking I have PLPD - do they call it PLPD in any state except Michigan? I know you all have the DMV and we have the Secretary of State just wondering what everyone's insurance is like - no fault? Do you know what PLPD is?
 

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okay i konw everything that happened except for the plane ????? how the hell did that happen :screwy:
 

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bulldogdefensivetacl said:
okay i konw everything that happened except for the plane ????? how the hell did that happen :screwy:
Somebody forgot to chock the wheels of another plane when they were doing an engine run up. The plane was "pilotless" and rolled forward. They couldn't get to it to stop it and it cut up the other plane.
 

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Captain Morgan said:
Somebody forgot to chock the wheels of another plane when they were doing an engine run up. The plane was "pilotless" and rolled forward. They couldn't get to it to stop it and it cut up the other plane.
Okay, that makes no sense once or ever. I apparently am far less aeronautically inclined as you becuase that is complete Greek to me. First of all if my understanding is correct, the running plane would have been rolling forward and would have had to roll head first into the beat-up stationary plane. If this is the case the prop of the rolling plane would have cut in a circular pattern high in the fuselage entering near the centerline, but exiting much farther outboard. That's not the case, the metal is ripped almost vertically is if someone went after it with a sawzall cutting from the centerlin at the top clear to the centerline at the bottom. Additionally it would have hit the cockpit first which appears nearly undamaged in comparison.

If it rolled from the rear forward it would have missed it completely because the height of the tail fin / rudder would have preveted the collision, or would have been severly damaged the rudder which is also in good shape. Beyond that, the rips are evenly spaced and completely vertical. If the plane was moving forward the prop would have cut through at a slight angle and would have been much more closely spaced. Furthermore why is the rear of the starboard engine damaged like it was crushed and not cut up like the rest of the plane?

My Theory = Hurricane Damage. The plane was tied died in a major storm when another plane or car or something hit it from behind, thus forcing the bottom of the fuselage up. The force from pushing up on the bottom fuselage and having the body tied down, buckled the body up to the cockpit thereby popping all the rivets and seperating each strip of metal from the frame as the body twisted and distorted underneath it. The car or other plane or whatever then rolled or flipped up onto the engine and wing causing the remainder of the damage.

What d'ya think of them apples.....


EDIT: I found the photo on some random aviation site and it backs your theory, but it still makes no sense. I'm calling Mythbusters!!!!!
 

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Okay, that makes no sense once or ever. I apparently am far less aeronautically inclined as you becuase that is complete Greek to me. First of all if my understanding is correct, the running plane would have been rolling forward and would have had to roll head first into the beat-up stationary plane. If this is the case the prop of the rolling plane would have cut in a circular pattern high in the fuselage entering near the centerline, but exiting much farther outboard. That's not the case, the metal is ripped almost vertically is if someone went after it with a sawzall cutting from the centerlin at the top clear to the centerline at the bottom. Additionally it would have hit the cockpit first which appears nearly undamaged in comparison.

If it rolled from the rear forward it would have missed it completely because the height of the tail fin / rudder would have preveted the collision, or would have been severly damaged the rudder which is also in good shape. Beyond that, the rips are evenly spaced and completely vertical. If the plane was moving forward the prop would have cut through at a slight angle and would have been much more closely spaced. Furthermore why is the rear of the starboard engine damaged like it was crushed and not cut up like the rest of the plane?

My Theory = Hurricane Damage. The plane was tied died in a major storm when another plane or car or something hit it from behind, thus forcing the bottom of the fuselage up. The force from pushing up on the bottom fuselage and having the body tied down, buckled the body up to the cockpit thereby popping all the rivets and seperating each strip of metal from the frame as the body twisted and distorted underneath it. The car or other plane or whatever then rolled or flipped up onto the engine and wing causing the remainder of the damage.

What d'ya think of them apples.....


EDIT: I found the photo on some random aviation site and it backs your theory, but it still makes no sense. I'm calling Mythbusters!!!!!
those guys are badass
 

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cerevja is right :dthumb: a lot to read but it sounds right ....sorry captasin :tt: :lol:
 

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Leave it to Dyno (aka cervaja) to rip it all apart!! Damn engineers!!

Ok, that last one, with the excavator barried....that sucks!! Been there, seen that happen!!!
 

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yeah i amagine that is hard to get out
 

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not aweful just nasty and uncalled for :skep: insurance or not your ass is screwed if that happens
 

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We have a lake (large pond about six miles in diameter and six feet deep) at a religious retreat that they have been digging out for years now trying to remove sediment.
They lose excavators at least once a month.
It has become a show to watch two D12's pull a dead excavator out of the mud.
As far as the plane, the tail rudder would have been high enough to miss damage and the tail wing is missing.
That is a nice theory thou.
 

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cerveja said:
Okay, that makes no sense once or ever. I apparently am far less aeronautically inclined as you becuase that is complete Greek to me. First of all if my understanding is correct, the running plane would have been rolling forward and would have had to roll head first into the beat-up stationary plane. If this is the case the prop of the rolling plane would have cut in a circular pattern high in the fuselage entering near the centerline, but exiting much farther outboard. That's not the case, the metal is ripped almost vertically is if someone went after it with a sawzall cutting from the centerlin at the top clear to the centerline at the bottom. Additionally it would have hit the cockpit first which appears nearly undamaged in comparison.

If it rolled from the rear forward it would have missed it completely because the height of the tail fin / rudder would have preveted the collision, or would have been severly damaged the rudder which is also in good shape. Beyond that, the rips are evenly spaced and completely vertical. If the plane was moving forward the prop would have cut through at a slight angle and would have been much more closely spaced. Furthermore why is the rear of the starboard engine damaged like it was crushed and not cut up like the rest of the plane?

My Theory = Hurricane Damage. The plane was tied died in a major storm when another plane or car or something hit it from behind, thus forcing the bottom of the fuselage up. The force from pushing up on the bottom fuselage and having the body tied down, buckled the body up to the cockpit thereby popping all the rivets and seperating each strip of metal from the frame as the body twisted and distorted underneath it. The car or other plane or whatever then rolled or flipped up onto the engine and wing causing the remainder of the damage.

What d'ya think of them apples.....


EDIT: I found the photo on some random aviation site and it backs your theory, but it still makes no sense. I'm calling Mythbusters!!!!!
worked at epley airport for 5 years for and fbo, seen it before. it happens
 

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jeeps84 said:
We have a lake (large pond about six miles in diameter and six feet deep) at a religious retreat that they have been digging out for years now trying to remove sediment.
They lose excavators at least once a month.
It has become a show to watch two D12's pull a dead excavator out of the mud.
As far as the plane, the tail rudder would have been high enough to miss damage and the tail wing is missing.
That is a nice theory thou.
well then how do you explain the perpindicular lines ????????????????????????????????????????
 
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