I just recieved my Sliders and took them out of the box to inspect them. Boy do they feel totally weak!! The denim is too light and the seams don't seem (pun intended) like they would hold up in a crash! I also have a pair of Draggin Jeans and although they don't fit me very well, they are STOUT!! The denim on the Draggin is HEAVY!! Back to the SLiders- they are also too loose for motorcycle purposes. The Kevlar positioning is better than the Draggin but since the jeans are so loose, there is no way that they would stay where they should during a slide! I am most likely going to return them. Anyone else have any different opinions of Sliders?? Ride ON!!