[thebiscuit]

how do they happen and how do you get out of them? not that i've experienced one, hope i don't, but i saw a vid of a busa just lose it in one...

i'm gonna guess it's from coming down off of a wheelie with the front wheel sideways... how to get out, i guess speed up to straighten the wheel??? i don't know.

also, what the hell are chicken strips, not the food item...:bash:

 

[Gas Man]

Yes you can get tank slappers from comin down off a wheelie but many, including myself while riddin a buddies 954, have had them happen just by unloading the weight off the front wheel. Get a stabalizer is the best way to prevent them.... otherwise... there a few small chance ideas to get out of it..none that are great!

Chicken strips.... is the area on the outer edge of the tire that isn't getting used. The larger the strip the less you are leaning your bike and therefor you are "chicken" to do so... get it?

 

[slam150]

wow, now alot of that makes sence, i guess i dont have my chicken strips anymore, and as for the tank slap, i have a GPR stabilizer and wont have to worry to much about tank slap.

 

[Back _Marker]

how do they happen and how do you get out of them? not that i've experienced one, hope i don't, but i saw a vid of a busa just lose it in one...

i'm gonna guess it's from coming down off of a wheelie with the front wheel sideways... how to get out, i guess speed up to straighten the wheel??? i don't know.

also, what the hell are chicken strips, not the food item...:bash:

I had a tank slapper once on the street while drag racing. I set my suspension tight and hit a bump @ 100+. it was on a 86 gsxr 750 which needed new steering head bearings. well anyways, when the front end landed, the steering head shook and a minor tank slapper went into major tank slapper.

what you do is not panic. squeeze tightly with your legs and you can steer by leaning the bike with your weight. I spread my arms out wide to try to catch wind and also helped me balance better. eventually, the engine will slow you down to a speed where the tank slapper will slow down.

tank slappers are a religious event.

-a|ex

 

[ebbs15]

Get a stabalizer is the best way to prevent them....

do you think it's something every bike should have? or is there certain bikes that are... prone to tank slappers?:scratch:

 

[Trip]

I had my first tank slapper very early on, bunch of cars in front of me locked up the breaks on the interstate and I grabbed way too much front break and let off quick and it started to shake. Not sure how it started, but probably from the rapid break release. I was lucky I didn't put it down. I just hung on for the ride and let the engine break slow me down. That was probably the most scared I have ever been on my bike.

 

[thebiscuit]

i read on a vfr forum that it's not needed due to the longer wheel base and trail or rake (which one isn't an angle???)... bottomline, there's is more weight on the front of a vfr than a gsxr or zx, so tankslappers are rarer on a vfr.

i hear all you have to do is relax your arms and speed up to straightn out the wheel, and fighting it just makes it worse.

 

[ebbs15]

i hear all you have to do is relax your arms and speed up to straightn out the wheel, and fighting it just makes it worse.

I may be mistaken but I can't see how speeding up would help other than to put you out of control at a higher speed... :yikes: but I have heard that idea mentioned before... I think I'd rather slow down... that way if it didn't work and I still went down... at least I'm going down at a reduced speed...

on a side note... wouldn't using the tail brake help in this instance by shifting the weight to the rear, and allowing you to controll the front with less effort? :scratch:

 

[Back _Marker]

I may be mistaken but I can't see how speeding up would help other than to put you out of control at a higher speed... :yikes: but I have heard that idea mentioned before... I think I'd rather slow down... that way if it didn't work and I still went down... at least I'm going down at a reduced speed...

on a side note... wouldn't using the tail brake help in this instance by shifting the weight to the rear, and allowing you to controll the front with less effort? :scratch:

depends if you lost grip of the handlebars. minor tank slappers you can, major tank slappers rip the bars off your hand. putting the rear brakes will cause you to lose balance. I used to have a cruise control device and road with hands of bars alot. touching the rear brakes was not fun.

-a|ex

 

[Jbird]

what is tank slapper?:withstupi :withstupi :help:

 

[Back _Marker]

what is tank slapper?:withstupi :withstupi :help:

when your handlebars slaps the sides of your tank...

-a|ex

 

[ebbs15]

depends if you lost grip of the handlebars. minor tank slappers you can, major tank slappers rip the bars off your hand. putting the rear brakes will cause you to lose balance. I used to have a cruise control device and road with hands of bars alot. touching the rear brakes was not fun.

-a|ex

but wouldn't it be just like letting the motor slow you down? I'm not saying stand on it... but just use it to slow you a little quicker than the motor... :scratch:

and I think riding with your hands off the bars with cruise control is a little diffrent as the motor is FIGHTING the rear break... unless you had it wired like a car where it disengages when you step on the brake... :willy:

 

[thebiscuit]

I may be mistaken but I can't see how speeding up would help other than to put you out of control at a higher speed... :yikes: but I have heard that idea mentioned before... I think I'd rather slow down... that way if it didn't work and I still went down... at least I'm going down at a reduced speed...

on a side note... wouldn't using the tail brake help in this instance by shifting the weight to the rear, and allowing you to controll the front with less effort? :scratch:

i think you speed up to get weight off of the front wheel by picking it up.

 

[twisty]

When in doubt.... gas it!!!

 

[ebbs15]

i think you speed up to get weight off of the front wheel by picking it up.

but like I said before... then your taking the chance that if it doesn't work... your going down at a higher speed... just my :2cents: though...

 

[thebiscuit]

^ oh yeah, i forgot about that...

 

[Gas Man]

do you think it's something every bike should have? or is there certain bikes that are... prone to tank slappers?:scratch:

I would never ride a sportbike without one! Let's just say that!

Yes some bikes are more prone... the 954 in 2002 for example is very prone...

And Twisty is right... better to gas it then to hit the stoppers!!

 

[ebbs15]

I would never ride a sportbike without one! Let's just say that!

Good to know!:dthumb: :readng:

And Twisty is right... better to gas it then to hit the stoppers!!

:scratch: guess my instincts are wrong... hopefully I won't have to test'm...
better start looking for a stabilizer just in case:lol:

 

[Gas Man]

And in my :2cents: the best one out is a Scotts

 

[pickle.of.doom]

Some bikes need them a lot more than others. Usually a steering damper is a fix for a problem caused by some other compromise in the chassis. Like say, less stability traded off for quicker steering or lower CG or whatnot. SHort wheelbase bikes and bikes with steep rake's are more prone to them, thats why we see a lot of trhem coming straight from the factory with a damper on. Thay had to take from one to give to another, and usually stability is what gets taken from.

Also, slowing down isn't always the best way to get out of a tankslapper. Like twisty says, when in doubt gas it. The added weight to the front end during decelleration or braking may make the gyroscopic effect worse. Of course, its nice to be going slower when you crash on the other hand. Its a toss-up!