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I know I don't just dump it in. How long do I run the bike? Is more better? The little bottle I have says it's good for 20 gal, but my bike is only 4 gallons. Should I use more or is it damaging?

Also, does it have shelf life? It'll last me 5 years if I use the recommended amount.
 

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when i used it before...i asked the dealer about the recommended amounts, and b/4 i put it in, i filled up the tank completely with good, high octane gas, like 93 or 94, dumped in the stabil, then rode it home, and put it away. I just buy a new bottle every year..dont like takin chances with it..but thats just me. overly cautious i guess..
 

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Never used it. I gas doesn’t break down that fast. I mean sure it is sh!t gas by the time summer comes but is caring about gas at the point. Since I'm a science major I could show the formula for the half-life of gas but it would be a waste of time. Now if you bike was sitting for a year or so I would maybe use it. But it a waste unless your bike has a carb. There is no need to fog the cylinders either. Today’s bikes don’t really need that sort of attention.
 

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twisty said:
Since I'm a science major I could show the formula for the half-life of gas but it would be a waste of time.

LOL So was I. Here is some off the wall stuff about your gas.

gasoline contains many different chemical compounds, it is made up mostly of hydrocarbons, and all hydrocarbons form the same products when they are burned (just in different amounts). When a hydrocarbon is burned (that is, reacted with oxygen), it forms carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O). For our "average" gasoline of C8H18, the reaction is 2 molecules of octane reacting with 25 molecules of oxygen (O2) to form 18 molecules of water and 16 molecules of carbon dioxide. Of course, this reaction only occurs completely in an ideal world. In the real world, there is usually not quite enough oxygen available fast enough inside your car's engine to allow the reaction to occur completely, so there is also some carbon monoxide (CO) formed as well. In addition, since the oxygen is provided by bringing air into the engine, and since air consists mostly of nitrogen, some oxides of nitrogen (NOX) are formed as well. Finally, some of the trace elements in the gasoline (such as sulfur) can react to form small amounts of other pollutants, such as SO2.


So, to sum up, gasoline is a complicated mixture of hydrocarbons boiling between 120 and 400 degrees F, with chemical formulas between C6H14 and C12H26, but a good "average" compound is C8H18. These react in an ideal situation to produce carbon dioxide and water, but in an actual automobile engine they also produce some amount of undesirable compounds including carbon monoxide, oxides of nitrogen, and sulfur-containing compounds.



You want to add anything to that one Twisty. :D
 

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I use stabilizer in my bikes I've had for years, better to be safe than sorry. Although I agree, today's bikes arent like the ones of the past, the old bikes seem to be alot more bullet proof than those of today. Meaning you can pretty much run them into the ground, and they'll just keep right on chuggin along. Very easy upkeep and common sense will take you far. Plus alot easier to work on.

But anyhow, back to the stabilizer, using top grade gasoline definately helps the cause. I always fill up, add in the stabilzer, and go for a quick ride to get it mixed thorougly, and then go about the rest of my winterizing.
 

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While it has been a long time since I sat in a chemistry class, I can tell you that you should use stabilizer if you have carbs. The problem is that carbs have small amounts of gas in the float bowl that will evaporate over time. As the fuel evaporates, it leaves a residue that can block the small passages in the carbs.

Use the stabilizer in the ratio indicated on the bottle. Fill up the tank with gas, add the stabilizer and ride it home. That will mix it up plenty.

Larry
 

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I agree with Larry on all points besides when you put the stabil in. When ever you add anything to you fuel tank (stabil, injector cleaner, dry gas) you should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, put in the additive at the gas pump (with the motor off) and THEN fill up your gas tank. The filling of the gas tank will mix up the additive really well!
 

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is it really that much of a difference if u put it in when the tank is full or more empty. as long as you ride it home and get the mixture nice a mixed around inside the tank, etc isnt that the main deal ur shootin for?
 

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I like to put it in first for two reasons.

1. It's just like making chocolate milk. put the syrup in first then the milk, it just mixes it up better.

2. It allows me to add the correct amount of stabil and fill the tank up completly to the filler neck with gas
 

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I do have carbs, so I have to use it. I've already forked out hundreds to have them torn down and cleaned because I didn't use gas stabilizer.
 

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is it really that much of a difference if u put it in when the tank is full or more empty. as long as you ride it home and get the mixture nice a mixed around inside the tank, etc isnt that the main deal ur shootin for?
Gasoline has a specific gravity < 1, which means it will float on water, for this reason you want to thoroughly mix any additive because if the additive's Sp gr is greater than gas, it will sink to the bottom and stay there.
 

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Now I can tell you ALL about the gravity of petroleoum products....

Yes, all those products, gas, diesel, jet fuel, high sulfer diesel, etc...are all lighter than water!
 

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Gas Man said:
I agree with Larry on all points besides when you put the stabil in. When ever you add anything to you fuel tank (stabil, injector cleaner, dry gas) you should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, put in the additive at the gas pump (with the motor off) and THEN fill up your gas tank. The filling of the gas tank will mix up the additive really well!
Good point.

Larry
 
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